LYL PODCAST EPISODE 063: The Enneagram with Stephanie Davis

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We all want to make positive changes in our lives. In order to do that, we need to reexamine ourselves, be aware of the things that we do unconsciously, and recalibrate our psyche to achieve the things that we want to achieve through the enneagram. But what is an enneagram and how does it fit in our journey to self-discovery?

That’s what we’re here to find out in our third episode of “The Best of The Menopause Movement Podcast” series. Today, we’ll take a deep dive into what makes us tick as we re-release our 19th episode featuring Stephanie Davis, an enneagram expert and a trainer educated in business, psychology, and systems theory.

Today, we have another truly informative and fascinating episode as we learn more about the enneagram, the nine different types and their general characteristics, and what your type might be.

Learn more about self-discovery through the enneagram today by tuning in to this episode!


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Books mentioned in this episode:

•  The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer (

•  The Complete Enneagram by Beatrice Chestnut (

•  The Road Back to You by Ian Morgan Cron and Suzanne Stabile (

•  The Wisdom of the Enneagram by Don Riso and Russ Hudson (

What’s discussed in this Episode

[2:28] The enneagram is a deep dive into what makes you tick. Unlike other personality systems, it goes deeper than behaviors 

[4:23] Oscar Ichazo came up with the enneagram of Personality in the 70s, taking psychology and ego development and mapping it on the symbol 

[8:39] What you can get from learning the enneagram is a perpetual self-busting machine. You start to see things about yourself that you never realized 

[12:02] In the enneagram, what makes you your type is how “messed up” you are when it comes to your heart/passion (emotional distortion), head/fixation (mental distortion), and gut/subtype (instinct) 

[16:42] There is a key emotion for each triad. Within each triad are three types: one type tends to overdo the key emotion, the other is the opposite, and the last has a weird relationship with it 

[18:06] An example of the gut triad. Gut triad: it’s all about the boundaries, and their key emotion is anger 

[25:27] There are no accurate enneagram tests. We pick up our behaviors from our parents and social expectations. This wiring is not something you can include in a test, and the most it can do is give you a starting point of where to look 

[26:56] The gut triad (1, 8, 9), what makes them tick, their ego, and how they react 

[26:01] Type 1 

[26:56] Type 8 

[29:33] Type 9 

[32:20] The heart triad (2, 3 4): what makes them tick, their ego, and how they react. This type focuses on social relationship dynamics. Their overarching issue is shame 

[33:33] Type 2 

[37:26] Type 3 

[42:25] Type 4 

[46:16] The goal is to loosen the illusions of your type, not change your type. Your strengths are still there, but your weaknesses will be a lot easier to deal with 

[51:43] We’re all going to have certain characteristics of nine types to some degree. Each has an interesting relationship with the two types beside them. Meanwhile, the two types that connect to yours in the diagram are your opposites. 

[57:23] The head triad (5, 6, 7): what makes them tick, their ego, and how they react 

[57:45] Type 5 

[1:00:58] Type 6 

[1:07:46] Type 7 

[1:13:37] Other theories from Katherine Fauvre and Claudio Naranjo, and the continuous evolution of the field 

[1:21:52] Resources for your growth 

[1:24:13] Going through the nine enneagram types and drawing a caricature for each 

About the Guest

Stephanie Davis is a certified Enneagram Teacher accredited by the International Enneagram Association with 30 years of experience teaching the Enneagram to big businesses and organizations. An international trainer educated in Business, Psychology, and Systems Theory, she has trained thousands of people worldwide.

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I hope you enjoyed this podcast, and I hope you will take action to look and be your best self. Thanks for listening!

Dr. Michelle Gordon

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