LYL PODCAST EPISODE 077: The School of Midlife, the O.R.G.Y Method with Lisa Burnage

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Midlife is a time of change in our lives. Change can be uncomfortable and when that happens, we may focus only on our discomfort. This can lead us to forget about how midlife is also exciting and fun as it means more freedom. No one enters midlife prepared, unlike adolescence where you at least know what to expect. The silence around this topic doesn’t help either. Nevertheless, midlife, with all its uncertainties, is surely not the time to isolate. Support is available, and you are not alone.

Our guest in today’s episode, Lisa Burnage, shares the same mission I have and that is to prepare, equip, and help women who are going through or are yet to go through all the changes and challenges midlife brings. We talk about Lisa’s experiences before she founded The School of Midlife and the O.R.G.Y method (and it’s not what you think). We also discuss what it means to let go of perfectionism to achieve progress, and much more.

You don’t have to dread this stage of life, nor do you have to go through it alone. Listen to today’s episode now!


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Books mentioned in this episode:

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•  Lost Connections (Paid link:

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•  How to Be a Woman (Paid link:

What’s discussed in this Episode

[1:59] What begun The School of Midlife 

[4:52] Lisa shares how she feels doing the 180° in her life 

[5:49] What prompted Lisa to start a change 

[6:34] Discovering perimenopause 

[9:05] Experience of the first cohort at the School of Midlife 

[10:43] Focus on inner work 

[11:08] How not to care about people think 

[13:00] The O.R.G.Y mindset 

[13:11] Defining your own gap year mindset 

[14:51] O.R.G.Y mindset method 

[19:42] Little wins lead to motivation and action 

[22:12] Re-expand ones comfort zone 

[24:51] Defining O.R.G.Y 

[30:12] Develop a positive perspective on aging 

[32:25] The next five years for Lisa

[33:29] Looking forward to middlescence 

[37:35] What’s it like to be a midlife activist 

About the Guest

Lisa Burnage is the founder of The School of Midlife and the proponent of the Oldies Reevaluation Gap Year (O.R.G.Y) method. She has more than two decades of experience as a corporate facilitator and executive coach. Lisa is also a self-proclaimed midlife activist with a mission of making midlife exciting and something to look forward to.

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I hope you enjoyed this podcast, and I hope you will take action to look and be your best self. Thanks for listening!

Dr. Michelle Gordon

Surgeon, TV Host, Author, Speaker.
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